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   xoxoxoBruce  Monday Nov 23 01:01 AM

Nov 23, 2009: Recortadores

Running with the bulls is foolhardy, fighting the bulls is even more so, but these bull jumpers are just crazy.



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Flying through the air these amazing bull leapers compete in the ultimate game of chance. Displaying flips, leaps and jumps these modern day Spanish 'Recortadores' continue a bull leaping tradition that goes back to the legendary King Minos from Crete's Minoan civilisation around 1500 BC. Each year, bull fighting teams from all over Spain descend upon the Plaza de Toros stadium in Valencia to battle in this daring competition.

With as many as three bulls in the ring at any one time, each 'Recortadores' team - made up of between 5 and 7 members - go head-to-head in a dangerous and skilful performance which can last up to four hours.
Three bulls running around in the ring at the same time? Sounds like a triple threat I'd want no part of.

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capnhowdy  Monday Nov 23 07:19 AM

I'll pass, too Bruce. I don't even think I'd enjoy watching it. I've always wondered why the animal rights activists tend to ignore these bull related activities. Not that I think they should raise hell about it. Just sayin.



morethanpretty  Monday Nov 23 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by capnhowdy View Post
I've always wondered why the animal rights activists tend to ignore these bull related activities..
They don't ignore it.

Takes 10 seconds to find it:
http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=64

That's just PETA. I've heard opposition to it for years.


monster  Monday Nov 23 08:17 AM

load of bull.






bbq please.



Pie  Monday Nov 23 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by capnhowdy View Post
I'll pass, too Bruce. I don't even think I'd enjoy watching it. I've always wondered why the animal rights activists tend to ignore these bull related activities. Not that I think they should raise hell about it. Just sayin.
According to what I've read, the bulls are not hurt in Recortadores.


ajaccio  Monday Nov 23 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pie View Post
According to what I've read, the bulls are not hurt in Recortadores.
Just vverrrrryyyy frustrated!!!



Shawnee123  Monday Nov 23 10:36 AM

The only good thing about these kinds of 'sports' is when the bull gets a good one in and impale or gore some dumbass. Darwinism at its finest. Best when vital organs are pierced.



xoxoxoBruce  Monday Nov 23 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by morethanpretty View Post
That's just PETA. I've heard opposition to it for years.
Sure, PETA's a given.

Unlike bullfighting, at least the bulls have an even shot in this game.


capnhowdy  Monday Nov 23 12:39 PM

I know they're against it. (I found it in 5 seconds), but they don't seem to raise as much hell about it as they do other things. That was my point. I think the reason is that the Spaniards tell them quickly where they can shove it. I got quite a chuckle at some of their posts at the bottom of the link page. They basically tell folks if you can't handle these types of events, just stay the hell out of Spain LOL.



morethanpretty  Monday Nov 23 01:16 PM

I guess you pay less attention that I do. I've heard of big outcries against bullfighting. I agree that it is cruelty. Are you for dog fighting and chicken fighting? Do you think that should be legal here in the US?
If you do, then I know why you think its ridiculous to be against bullfighting. If you don't, then there is no reason why you should support it.

(I am not speaking about the recortadores - i would consider it kinda mean, but its not on the same level as cruel.)



Crimson Ghost  Monday Nov 23 03:19 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnee123 View Post
The only good thing about these kinds of 'sports' is when the bull gets a good one in and impale or gore some dumbass. Darwinism at its finest. Best when vital organs are pierced.
Same thought was running through my mind...


/3579


Shawnee123  Monday Nov 23 03:32 PM

What is 3579?



Cloud  Monday Nov 23 03:55 PM

I find the word, "recortador" interesting in this context. I think it means "well cut" or "a well cut person."

If they're doing it right (by clearing the horns), they wouldn't be cut at all.



Diaphone Jim  Monday Nov 23 07:20 PM

I was going to just look and listen, but followed the PETA link which discusses only traditional bullfighting, OT really.
Then I figured these bulls may be the same ones later killed.
But best, I found a Spanish Wikipedia artcle which in English translation provides this great definition of Trimming: "Dribble the bull by the andarle face and avoid the fuck."
I should think so.
http://translate.google.com/translat...N%26start%3D10



ZenGum  Monday Nov 23 07:28 PM

I have no problem with bull jumping, rodeo riding or Portugese style bull fighting where the bull is not killed, becaue the main risk is to the human.
I do object to Spanish style bull fighting where the bull is slowly and painfully killed.



Gravdigr  Monday Nov 23 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud View Post
I find the word, "recortador" interesting in this context. I think it means "well cut" or "a well cut person."

If they're doing it right (by clearing the horns), they wouldn't be cut at all.
You have to be circumsized...


Clodfobble  Monday Nov 23 07:46 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloud
I find the word, "recortador" interesting in this context. I think it means "well cut" or "a well cut person."

If they're doing it right (by clearing the horns), they wouldn't be cut at all.
-ador means "one who [does]" rather than "one who [is]," so it's "one who trims," or "a trimmer." I suspect it's roughly something akin to our expression of "cutting it close."


darkwing duck  Monday Nov 23 09:54 PM

I love it when The Cellar posts things related to what I'm studying in school.

Apparently the ancient Minoans did it too:

http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Arts/MinoanBullJump.htm



Cloud  Monday Nov 23 10:09 PM

no one reads Mary Renault anymore?



Elspode  Monday Nov 23 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pie View Post
According to what I've read, the bulls are not hurt in Recortadores.
It doesn't matter. Unless we're letting animals just go around doing whatever animals do, without exploitation or interference, those folks are going to be protesting. Think of cows in New Delhi.


Kasszia  Tuesday Nov 24 12:26 AM

Gives a whole new meaning to Beef Kabob.



Crimson Ghost  Tuesday Nov 24 02:02 AM

'Hot Beef Injection' means something else...


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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 View Post
What is 3579?
My post count at that time.


Saknussem  Tuesday Nov 24 02:15 AM

He'd better be careful, or that bull will win with a hole in Juan.



SPUCK  Tuesday Nov 24 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Saknussem View Post
He'd better be careful, or that bull will win with a hole in Juan.



BrianR  Tuesday Nov 24 10:42 PM

My wife agrees with Clobfobble and Cloud on the translation. It doesn't really translate as it refers to the people specifically doing this activity.

She also had a few other choice words. Idiota, pendejo, and a few unprintable others.



morethanpretty  Wednesday Nov 25 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Saknussem View Post
He'd better be careful, or that bull will win with a hole in Juan.
Juan won one!


ZenGum  Wednesday Nov 25 07:12 AM

Have you ever seen cowboy poker?

ETA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtJohKREv2E



SPUCK  Thursday Nov 26 06:42 AM

Thanks for the reminder Zen.

I think these two are better!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOIyo...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PG1R...eature=related

The first game I ever saw had 8 guys at a table and they were actually playing cards. The cards really made it special. They went everywhere on impact like a giant exclamation point!

I'd love to see Chicken On A Chain or Code Blue going all in.



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