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   Undertoad  Wednesday Dec 12 02:12 PM

December 12, 2007: 100 Miillion pennies at Rockefeller Center NYC



When I saw copyrighted AP wire service shots of this, I realized that somebody in flickr probably had a few shots as well, marked as public. What a way to get around copyright problems!



This set of photos from flickr user mgc1005 show the Common Cents 17th annual Penny Harvest, "a national educational program designed to teach children about their value as contributors to society." Apparently the kids collect them for charity, and they've collected 600,000 pounds of them.



They take up 30 feet by 165 feet of space.



But some coin people say the word "penny" is not appropriate for the US Cent, and that the only true "penny" is the British penny. One piece of evidence: the plural of these things is "cents", not "pence" as the Brits say.



glatt  Wednesday Dec 12 02:31 PM

That's a lot of pennies. Don't they understand that they have paper currency now in order to make it more convenient to carry around large sums of money?



Shawnee123  Wednesday Dec 12 02:36 PM

"Now we know how many cents it takes to fill Rockefeller Hall.
I'd love to turn you on."
-The Beatles



AndyDan  Wednesday Dec 12 03:06 PM

[QUOTE But some coin people say the word "penny" is not appropriate for the US Cent, and that the only true "penny" is the British penny. One piece of evidence: the plural of these things is "cents", not "pence" as the Brits say.[/quote]

Your own title calls them "pennies", which is the correct plural of penny. The penny is the coin; a cent is how much it's worth.

The American Heritage Dictionary agrees:
In the United States and Canada, the coin that is worth one cent.



Undertoad  Wednesday Dec 12 03:10 PM

Oh yeah! I stand corrected.



hells9t3  Wednesday Dec 12 03:27 PM

Practically everyone I know has stopped saying "pence" now (like Brits-wise). Probably because it sounds so old fashioned. It's just "p". I like it. It sounds cute. Lol. Anyway. It looks pretty cool. I'd love to go and see it. I'm going over there next October for an exchange trip with school but it probably won't be on by then will it? I don't know. I've never been before. Or heard anything about what it is for that matter. Still, cool post.



Tomtheman5  Wednesday Dec 12 04:45 PM

Very cool idea... wonder if anyone's tried taking some?

PS -

You didn't really eliminate the copyright problem, as these photos are still owned by that Flickr user. You just took photos from someone who isn't as likely to sue.

I'm thinking about going next week to see the Rockefeller tree (for the first time ever!). If I get there, I'll post some free pics.



Undertoad  Wednesday Dec 12 05:05 PM

Yeah, I thought "this photo is public" on flickr applied to the copyright section of the photo page. But it doesn't, it applies to who can view it.

Well get us some non-copyrighted images then sir!



xoxoxoBruce  Wednesday Dec 12 11:40 PM

About 500 barrels of clear epoxy would make a great paper weight.



ZenGum  Wednesday Dec 12 11:43 PM

Am I the only one with a Scrooge McDuck-ish urge to go swimming in that lot?



xoxoxoBruce  Thursday Dec 13 12:28 AM

I wonder what it cost to ship 600,000 pounds of pennies from where they were collected to Rocky Center?



JuancoRocks  Thursday Dec 13 12:45 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce View Post
I wonder what it cost to ship 600,000 pounds of pennies from where they were collected to Rocky Center?
Perhaps a pretty penny?

"cost a pretty penny"
cost (someone) a pretty penny
to be very expensive. That diamond ring must have cost him a pretty penny.


Elspode  Thursday Dec 13 12:47 AM

Fuck...I pity the fool who has to roll all those.



Razzmatazz13  Thursday Dec 13 01:08 AM

I rolled about $500 in pennies a few weeks back here. (Helpin my dad cash in his old change jar.) Lemme tell you, as much fun as it sounds...

it isn't.



randomidea  Thursday Dec 13 02:09 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertoad View Post
Yeah, I thought "this photo is public" on flickr applied to the copyright section of the photo page. But it doesn't, it applies to who can view it.

Well get us some non-copyrighted images then sir!
If you use the advanced search option on flickr, you can restrict your search results to only show images with a Creative Commons license. (To be pedantic, these pictures are still copyrighted, but the copyright owner grants the right to use the image for certain purposes). I do this for most of my pictures on flickr.

In this case, the following picture by flickr user somewhat frank is the only one I found:




slang  Thursday Dec 13 09:10 AM

They appear to be ready for the metal recycler. Pre-86 pennies are 97% pure copper. With the scrap rate nowdays you can almost double your money, pound for pound.

It's a shame that the mint doesnt allow them to be recycled. Even if a penny is yours, it's really not. It's "yours to spend as a penny" not yours as in your own the material.

Approx face value of 1lb of pennies - $1.80

Scrap rate recently - $2.75 to $400

A close friend has an unusually large collection of pennys that he's organized over 45 years. We've looked into getting rid of these coins but because of the weight involved it's difficult.What a pain in the ass.



Shawnee123  Thursday Dec 13 09:54 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenGum View Post
Am I the only one with a Scrooge McDuck-ish urge to go swimming in that lot?
Yep. Nekkid.


ZenGum  Thursday Dec 13 10:05 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnee123 View Post
Yep. Nekkid.
You mean ... heads and tails?

I don't remember that from the Disney versions.


Shawnee123  Thursday Dec 13 10:09 AM

Well, see, Disney didn't recognize the early penny until 19 ought 6, and in that year pennies were made of gold and frankinsence. Then the dogs came along and ate a bunch of them. Somewhere at the turn of the next decade, pennies were used in baked goods as a preservative, until someone realized that they could be used to clean airplane runways after it snowed for three days. The earliest known cent was given to Prince Matchabelli in 1546 as a gift after his child was born. This is the first known instance of a girl being named Penny. [/a thousand Cliff Clavens]



Diaphone Jim  Thursday Dec 13 11:50 AM

I can't find the IOTD about the guy who builds huge structures out of stacked coins. Boy, could he do a job with these. I did save the link, though: www.fincher.org/Misc/Pennies
I also wonder if you can make a wish by throwing water in the pile.



Shawnee123  Thursday Dec 13 12:00 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diaphone Jim View Post
I also wonder if you can make a wish by throwing water in the pile.
:p


Chocolatl  Thursday Dec 13 01:23 PM

I misread "pennies" in the thread title, and clicked thinking it was going to be the best NSFW Image of the Day ever.

Still neat, but not nearly as exciting as I thought it was going to be.



Shawnee123  Thursday Dec 13 01:25 PM

lol@chocolatl

Yeah, I would be buying a plane ticket to get to Rockefeller RFN!



Kumbulu  Friday Dec 14 12:09 AM

I hate how your hands smell after you've been playing with or counting coins. I wonder if anyone's done a study on the diseases you can get from coins? Maybe you have to lick them in that case...



pocketlama  Friday Dec 14 02:02 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertoad View Post
When I saw copyrighted AP wire service shots of this, I realized that somebody in flickr probably had a few shots as well, marked as public. What a way to get around copyright problems!
Great idea! Just remember that Flickr asks for a link back:
"Do link back to Flickr when you post your photos elsewhere.
The Flickr service makes it possible to post images hosted on Flickr to outside web sites. However, pages on other web sites that display images hosted on flickr.com must provide a link from each photo back to its photo page on Flickr."



ViennaWaits  Friday Dec 14 06:24 PM

Quote:
I hate how your hands smell after you've been playing with or counting coins. I wonder if anyone's done a study on the diseases you can get from coins? Maybe you have to lick them in that case...
A couple of quarters ago in microbiology, we did a lab on that very thing, placing pennies n' such in the dish.

Don't lick money. Ever. Or your fingers. Or your hair. Or anything else. Promise, it's NASTY.


ZenGum  Saturday Dec 15 10:38 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kumbulu View Post
I hate how your hands smell after you've been playing with or counting coins. I wonder if anyone's done a study on the diseases you can get from coins? Maybe you have to lick them in that case...
Quote:
Originally Posted by ViennaWaits View Post
A couple of quarters ago in microbiology, we did a lab on that very thing, placing pennies n' such in the dish.

Don't lick money. Ever. Or your fingers. Or your hair. Or anything else. Promise, it's NASTY.
New scientist has just delivered this timely short piece, edited highlights of which are:
Quote:
In a recent microbiological investigation of money in the Netherlands it was observed that coins may harbour up to 1000 bacteria, and paper money a few million.

Viruses can survive on banknotes, as scientists in Switzerland recently showed when they dripped flu virus onto notes accompanied by human nasal mucus. The viruses remained viable for up to 17 days.



ViennaWaits  Saturday Dec 15 09:00 PM

Quote:
Viruses can survive on banknotes, as scientists in Switzerland recently showed when they dripped flu virus onto notes accompanied by human nasal mucus. The viruses remained viable for up to 17 days.
You know some asshole took that money and spent it, too.
(shivs)
Money is disgusting. Glad I rarely carry cash.


xoxoxoBruce  Saturday Dec 15 11:22 PM

Credit/Debit cards, will not build your immune system.



ViennaWaits  Tuesday Dec 18 11:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce View Post
Credit/Debit cards, will not build your immune system.
Sure they will. Just use 'em to buy lots of Vitamin C.


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