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Who's the gent in this picture?

No, it's poet John Masefield, who also happened to sport a stylish toothbrush mustache (very popular in their day!) But according to Ananova, the pub intending to honor him is considering changing the sign, because of the undeniable resemblance. It hasn't even had its grand opening yet, but locals are already calling the pub "The Adolf."

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Manager Seanie Walsh, 55, said: "We must admit he does look a bit like Hitler on the sign, but that didn't occur to us until after we put it up. We've got lots of pictures of John Masefield inside from different stages of his life and we hope people come down and learn more about him while having a drink."

It barely looks like Hitler. But I could see how either way it might be bad for business.

On the otherhand it is a Wetherspoons and they are the spawn of the devil so maybe it's pretty apt to call it the Hitler pub?

Looks like Adolf on a heavy dose of valium.

Which might have done him some good, come to think of it.

Ohhh all this free publicity, the manager must be soooo upset.

Hmm...I'm guessing he's not happy at that particular kind of publicity. What you really don't want as a publican is for your pub to become a known BNP haunt where more respectable clientele won't venture.

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Originally Posted by DanaC

What really bugs me is how, after Hitler, nobody could ever again wear that mustache. Now we have every permutation of facial hair possible, but nobody will go for that tight crop thingie.

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

What really bugs me is how, after Hitler, nobody could ever again wear that mustache. Now we have every permutation of facial hair possible, but nobody will go for that tight crop thingie.

I like a little more individual flavour to a pub. Although, there's something very pleasant and easy about a Wetherspoons. Slowly, quietly in a very English way, a small number of pub chains is smoothing out the wrinkles and edges from pub culture; just smoothing them away like water on rock.

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Originally Posted by DanaC

British National Party. ... ... sending out an instruction that members please refrain from doing muted heil hitler salutes to each other when they meet up.

They also have a 'paramilitary' wing. Combat 18. (1 = A for adolf, 8 = H for hitler. Used to be Combat 88 for Heil Hitler). Many of the BNP rallies are to raise funds to assist the wives and families of activists who are serving time for racially motivated crimes, or beating up the rival partys' activists :P Pleasant bunch. I've had a few scary encounters with them.

I say damn the PC! Keep the picture and change the name of the place to "The Bunker"!

They should get one of these in the new bar -

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Just don't drink straight from the source.

It says John Masefield. If they could not figure that out I would not want those idiots in my bar.

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The European parliament's far-right bloc faces collapse after Romanian MEPs said they would quit over an Italian colleague's "xenophobic" remarks.

Italian MEP Alessandra Mussolini, the grand-daughter of fascist dictator Benito Mussolini, reportedly described Romanians as "habitual law-breakers" and saying "breaking the law has become a way of life for Romanians".

The newspaper also quoted Ms Mussolini as saying Italians saw little difference between Romanian immigrants and Roma (Gypsies).

(The Greater Romania party has itself campaigned on a fiercely nationalistic, anti-Roma [ i.e. gypsy ] platform).

Five Romanian MEPs have threatened to quit over the "sacrilegious" remarks.

The Romanian MEPs' move would take the far-right bloc's membership below the minimum required for a grouping in the parliament.

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Originally Posted by DanaC

The ones who actually stand for office aren't so much of a problem, it's their supporters and activists. And their leaders of course. One of whom told his party activists that the battle for the hearts and minds of the North (where they were starting to make a bid for council seats) would be 'won with boots and fists on the streets of Burnley".

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Knights of the Ku Klux Klan

In 1974, David Duke founded the Louisiana-based Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, a Ku Klux Klan group, shortly after graduating from LSU. He first received broad public attention during this time, as he successfully marketed himself in the mid-1970s as a new brand of Klansman � well-groomed, engaged, and professional. Duke also reformed the organization, promoting nonviolence and legality, and, for the first time in the Klan's history, women were accepted as equal members and Catholics were encouraged to apply for membership.

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New Orleans Protocol

Shortly after his release from prison, Duke organized a weekend gathering of "European Nationalists", in the vein of White nationalism, in New Orleans, Louisiana. In an attempt to overcome the splintering and division that had followed the death of William Pierce in 2002, he presented a unity proposal for peace within the movement and a better image amongst outsiders. His proposal was accepted and is now known as the "New Orleans Protocol". It pledges adherents to a pan-European outlook, recognizing national and ethnic allegiance, but stressing the value of all European peoples. It has three provisions:[93][94]

"Zero tolerance for violence."
"Honorable and ethical behavior in relations with other signatory groups. This includes not denouncing others who have signed this protocol. In other words, no enemies on the right."
"Maintaining a high tone in our arguments and public presentations."

Those who signed the pact on May 29, 2004 include Duke, Paul Fromm, Don Black, Willis Carto, Kevin Alfred Strom and John Tyndall (signing as an individual, not on behalf of his British National Party.)[93]

I adore John Masefield, damn them if they change the sign.
Just because he had the misfortune to follow a silly fashion in facial hair doesn't stop me enjoying Cargoes or Raymond's Last Run.

I don't have a problem with Wetherspoons either - they're cheap!
Okay, so I do have a problem if the fact they are cheap means more individual pubs have to close, I'd rather have the choice of a big faceless barn with cut price food and drink when I'm poor, and a cosy Freehouse where the landlord remembers what I drink when I have more funds.

Tink - the problem with the big chains is that if they take over too many pubs the whole point of a pub crawl disappears. You might as well stay in one anonymous place all night, rather than haul your bones to the next one which looks just the same.

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Well there was a time that the Army use to make us crop them short. They, by reg, could not extend in any way past the edge of your mouth and had to be vertical on that edge. On a number of people they looked very Hitlereske. On the other hand I always bucked the system a little bit.