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   Undertoad  Wednesday Mar 14 12:09 PM

March 14, 2007: Excavation around house



I'm not selling to you developers!

Ah yes, the reluctant dweller. Here in the US, we have zoning laws to ensure that landowners can't just do whatever they want with their property, and eminent domain laws to ensure that the government can take it from them if someone more powerful wants the land for something else.

For the most part, we also have developers that don't begin work unless everything's ready. Don't want to waste the labor in digging a big hole, if you're just gonna have to fill it in again.

According to the full story, the owners have connections with the government. But now they have no connection to the world, as the excavation is 40 feet deep. Watch that first step, it's a doozy.



Griff  Wednesday Mar 14 12:16 PM

scratching Red China off moving to new country list



Sheldonrs  Wednesday Mar 14 12:34 PM

Oh well, there goes the neighborhood.



Shawnee123  Wednesday Mar 14 12:42 PM

Are they renting out?



bluecuracao  Wednesday Mar 14 12:43 PM

Now they have to commute to work via parachute, like the guy in that car commercial.



Shawnee123  Wednesday Mar 14 01:02 PM

"Hey Bobby, will you run over to Mrs McGillacuddy's and borrow a cup of sugar?"

"Sure, Mommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..."



Trilby  Wednesday Mar 14 01:24 PM

Arthur Dent would be proud



Elspode  Wednesday Mar 14 01:25 PM

"A man's home is his castle." "No man is an island." A man's home *can*, however, be an island, castle or not.

They must bury their electrical, sewer and water supplies *really* deep in China...'cause I don't see any going to that building.

I'll bet their kids behave really well. Getting kicked out of the house could be really painful.

Fill that sucker in, and you've got a pretty damn fine moat.

Pizza guys hate to deliver here.



Tomtheman5  Wednesday Mar 14 04:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheldonrs View Post
Oh well, there goes the neighborhood.
Quite possibly the funniest (and most appropriate) thing I've ever read on Cellar!


Kitsune  Wednesday Mar 14 04:34 PM

Another holdout.



SPUCK  Wednesday Mar 14 09:20 PM

Yeah... I've seen that house! And leave it to HP to paint their name on the roof!



Armygrognard  Thursday Mar 15 05:31 AM

Eminent Domain

Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertoad View Post


I'm not selling to you developers!

Ah yes, the reluctant dweller. Here in the US, we have zoning laws to ensure that landowners can't just do whatever they want with their property, and eminent domain laws to ensure that the government can take it from them if someone more powerful wants the land for something else.

For the most part, we also have developers that don't begin work unless everything's ready. Don't want to waste the labor in digging a big hole, if you're just gonna have to fill it in again.

According to the full story, the owners have connections with the government. But now they have no connection to the world, as the excavation is 40 feet deep. Watch that first step, it's a doozy.
I wouldn't be so sure about the U.S. and any laws protecting us. As we saw in the Kelso case in Connecticutt, the homeowners lost, and the Supreme Court affirmed the eminent domain action. In numerous other states, similar attempts are made every year. While I was in Georgia, the State Legislature attempted a bill that would allow the eminent domain proceedings to go on in private, and the first you, the homeowner, would hear about it is when you were served the paperwork. It was defeated/killed, fortunately.

The Supreme Court effectively said U.S. citizens have no property rights. The good news is some states are enacting laws to further protect the citizens, so some good may have come from it. Still, I don't like what that decision portends.


Trilby  Thursday Mar 15 05:41 AM

Hi Armygrognard. Welcome to the cellar!



Griff  Thursday Mar 15 07:29 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Armygrognard View Post
The Supreme Court effectively said U.S. citizens have no property rights. The good news is some states are enacting laws to further protect the citizens, so some good may have come from it. Still, I don't like what that decision portends.
UT and I live in PA, one of the better property rights states, not ideal but not Red China either. I'm 100% with you on Kelo, the Supreme Court attacked a fundamental liberty on that one.


Griff  Thursday Mar 15 12:19 PM

File this under pig finds pearl.
Democracy Now is for once offended:
Police Kill 12 Protesting Expropriation in India
In India, at least twelve people were killed after police opened fire on villagers opposing the forced expropriation of farmland in West Bengal. The Indian government wants to use the land to create a tax-free industrial park for an Indonesian chemical firm. More than five hundred police were deployed. Authorities had not tried to enter the area since January due to local opposition.



SquadRat1  Thursday Mar 15 03:07 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kitsune View Post
Thats HP Pavilion...and I think the "house" is a security building of some kind for the parking lot.


xoxoxoBruce  Thursday Mar 15 03:44 PM

Hey, at least in India they kill you so finding another place isn't a problem.
Welcome Armygrognard, medical corps? How'd we get lucky enough for you to find us?

Thanks Bri.



Undertoad  Thursday Mar 22 05:00 PM



Higher quality image.



Angry homeowner.

From here.

Quote:
Chongqing citizen Wu Ping who refuses to move out from her old house, shows the Constitution of China and her determination to withstand possible force removal of her house, in southwest China's Chongqing Municipality, on March 21, a day before the deadline of moving sentenced by local court. Wu refused to go in a compensation disagreement with the real estate developer.



Griff  Thursday Mar 22 05:23 PM

I guess the grabbing your copy of the Constitution is universal in these things and in the end meaningless.



DanaC  Thursday Mar 22 08:00 PM

Quote:
Here in the US, we have zoning laws to ensure that landowners can't just do whatever they want with their property, and eminent domain laws to ensure that the government can take it from them if someone more powerful wants the land for something else.
We have property development regulations controlling what anyone can do with their land/buildings. In order to substantially alter the appearance or function of a building or piece of land one must first acquire planning permission from the council, that permission must be granted or refused with regard to the Council's agreed Unitary Develpoment Plan. But.....we also have something called Compulsory Purchase Orders, which Council's can issue against land/building/house owners, whereby they have to sell to the Council in order for largescale public works or major town alterations to take place.


zippyt  Monday Apr 2 11:57 PM

They trashed it !!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6520317.stm



bluecuracao  Tuesday Apr 3 12:01 AM

Quote:
Mrs Wu, when told the house had been demolished, reportedly said: "Oh well."
I wonder how big her grin was when she said that?


Cloud  Tuesday Apr 3 12:14 AM

In my town, they built a new FBI facility . . . around both sides of a car wash, which refused to give up the land.



xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Apr 3 08:37 PM

I'll bet they have a list of every patron and how often then wash their car, as well as soil and fiber samples from each wash.



Armygrognard  Tuesday May 15 09:20 AM

Hey

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianna View Post
Hi Armygrognard. Welcome to the cellar!
Hi Brianna, thanks for the welcome and my apologies for being so rude as to not respond earlier.

Great forum, just never sent the link home so I could visit after work.

I'll try to do better...


Armygrognard  Tuesday May 15 09:22 AM

Hey

Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce View Post
Hey, at least in India they kill you so finding another place isn't a problem.
Welcome Armygrognard, medical corps? How'd we get lucky enough for you to find us?

Thanks Bri.
Hey Bruce, thanks for the welcome. As with Brianna, my apologies for the rudeness.

No, I am Military Intelligence. You know, the "oxymoron". Yeah, I had to get that one out of the way, right away.

I'll visit more, I promise!


BigV  Tuesday May 15 10:30 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Armygrognard View Post
Hey Bruce, thanks for the welcome. As with Brianna, my apologies for the rudeness.

No, I am Military Intelligence. You know, the "oxymoron". Yeah, I had to get that one out of the way, right away.

I'll visit more, I promise!
Maybe, maybe not.

But I sure hope so. I'd love to have a first person account/contact with someone familiar with military intelligence (spoken with zero irony, cross my heart).


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