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   Undertoad  Thursday Jan 25 01:58 PM

January 25, 2007: Old tank found, pulled out of the muck



Some IotDs are just mysteries. Lurker Caleb (thanks!) sends along a series at this page with an .sk domain. The following shots are taken from there, and presented here without comment. If anyone can help solve the question of what the hell happened here, either via the Slovokian (?) words or from futher knowledge of the event, do comment on it.




















Elspode  Thursday Jan 25 02:01 PM

Well, at first blush, I'd say it was a German tank driven into a bog during WWII, and it was preserved by the anaerobic nature of bogs. But then I get to looking at the turret, and notice there's not lid to the crew port, and what appears to be faded graffiti written on the rest of the turret. Now I'm just wondering if it wasn't some monument somewhere that got prank dumped into the bog...



CharlieG  Thursday Jan 25 02:11 PM

A bit of an "odd" one

One of the mailing lists I'm on explained it somewhere

It seems up there on the northern front, during WWII, the Germans captured a Russian tank. They painted their markings on it, and put it to use. The next battlem the tank ended up breaking through the ice, and sinking in the swamp. Last year, they recovered the tank, which was preserved (as Esplode guessed) by a lack of oxygen

So you have a bit of an odd one - a RUSSIAN tank, with German markings, being pulled out of a bog



Elspode  Thursday Jan 25 02:16 PM

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1739643/posts



Undertoad  Thursday Jan 25 02:19 PM

Ah. Best part of the story:

At that time, a local boy walking by the lake Kurtna Matasjarv noticed tank tracks leading into the lake, but not coming out anywhere. For two months he saw air bubbles emerging from the lake. This gave him reason to believe that there must be an armored vehicle at the lakes bottom. A few years ago, he told the story to the leader of the local war history club Otsing. Together with other club members, Mr Igor Shedunov initiated diving expeditions to the bottom of the lake about a year ago. At the depth of 7 metres they discovered the tank resting under a 3-metre layer of peat.



glatt  Thursday Jan 25 02:25 PM

No mention of human remains found in the tank. You would think that if the tank was preserved that well, the human remains would have been as well. Maybe they were able to get out before it sank.



xoxoxoBruce  Thursday Jan 25 02:40 PM

I believe the tank was ditched in the lake during the German retreat, nobody aboard ..... or no body aboard.



Griff  Thursday Jan 25 04:28 PM

I think its neat that a commonly available civilian dozer is powerful enough to pull that tank out.



glatt  Thursday Jan 25 04:35 PM

One of the freaky things about me is that when I look at a situation, I often look for the danger in that situation. For example, it drives me nuts when my wife puts things on the steps to take upstairs later as that's a tripping hazard.

Anyway, here I keep thinking about the cables and the tremendous tension they are under. They are obviously thick and strong enough for the task, but I can't help remembering the stories my Dad told me about how a cable will always whip around when it snaps, and can easily decapitate a person, but when a chain breaks, it just falls to the ground with no force. I bet those cables could cut through some of those smaller trees if they snapped, there is so much force in them. [/freak]



Griff  Thursday Jan 25 04:42 PM

Yah, I took some guff for pulling an old barn together with binders and chain, when all the self-appointed experts were pushing for cable. They were not going to be the ones increasing the tension once a week...



hampor  Friday Jan 26 01:01 AM

Allow me to be the first to say

Tanks for the memories.



Shawnee123  Friday Jan 26 08:26 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by hampor View Post
Tanks for the memories.
Punny! :p


magilla  Friday Jan 26 09:27 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-34

Chris



Beestie  Friday Jan 26 10:46 AM

Mmmmmmmmmmmm... Its the Friday IotD! I say we saute that sucker in garlic butte... heyyyyyyyyy - Wait a sec - I can't eat that! There's gotta be a way to work this into a tasty morsel thread.

Mebbe we can scrape some tasty nematoads...

Ohhh I got it! Lets build a huge fire and roast the entire tank then, after it cools, we can go inside and eat whatever was living in it! Ahhh. Better now.



Shawnee123  Friday Jan 26 11:35 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beestie View Post
Mebbe we can scrape some tasty nemotodes...
Doug can help find a nematoad:


xoxoxoBruce  Friday Jan 26 11:49 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Griff View Post
I think its neat that a commonly available civilian dozer is powerful enough to pull that tank out.
I'm not sure a 68 ton dozer can be called commonly available.

I first saw this story through a link from that Kidofspeed girl riding her motorcycle through the Chernobyl dead area. She has a whole section on collecting military battlefield souvenirs.

This is the story and pictures page http://www.strategypage.com/military...115163335.aspx


Deuce  Friday Jan 26 12:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beestie View Post
Mmmmmmmmmmmm... Its the Friday IotD! I say we saute that sucker in garlic butte... heyyyyyyyyy - Wait a sec - I can't eat that! There's gotta be a way to work this into a tasty morsel thread.

Mebbe we can scrape some tasty nematoads...

Ohhh I got it! Lets build a huge fire and roast the entire tank then, after it cools, we can go inside and eat whatever was living in it! Ahhh. Better now.
Yeah, like oysters. Once you get past hard candy coating, they're delish-crunch-us. Especially with garlic butter.


busterb  Friday Jan 26 02:04 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce;
I first saw this story through a link from that [B
Kidofspeed girl [/b]riding her motorcycle through the Chernobyl dead area. She has a whole section on collecting military battlefield souvenirs.

This is the story and pictures page http://www.strategypage.com/military...115163335.aspx
xoB. A link to her, please. I've lost mine. Never mind. Tnx Google.

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ferret88  Friday Jan 26 02:33 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
Yeah, like oysters. Once you get past hard candy coating, they're delish-crunch-us. Especially with garlic butter.
Or maybe escargot (or whatever the Russians call snails-as-food)...


zippyt  Friday Jan 26 09:33 PM

I was going to argue that it didn't look like a T34 ,
well I was WRONG !!!
Here's a link for info ,
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/t-34.htm



xoxoxoBruce  Friday Jan 26 10:20 PM

Another thing that tank had going for it is it was almost brand new.
They lost it to the Nazis in it's first battle. Then it was repainted to use against the Russians but in another three weeks the Nazis had to retreat so they dumped it in the lake with 116 of it's original Russian shells on board.
It helps the restoration if it isn't all beat to hell to start with.



tulzscha  Saturday Jan 27 02:48 AM

Here's another tank-in-the-mud story, though the pictures are a little more indistinct. And technically, it's not a tank, it's an "assault gun"(Sturmgeschutz IIIG), but, well...

Guess those wide tracks didn't lower the ground pressure quite enough...



mitheral  Saturday Jan 27 04:28 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by glatt View Post
They are obviously thick and strong enough for the task, but I can't help remembering the stories my Dad told me about how a cable will always whip around when it snaps, and can easily decapitate a person, but when a chain breaks, it just falls to the ground with no force. I bet those cables could cut through some of those smaller trees if they snapped, there is so much force in them. [/freak]
Chain can be just as dangerous, one should never be complacent when dealing with a load.


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