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   Undertoad  Monday Nov 13 09:52 AM

November 13, 2006: Shuttle launch from above



Happy Monkey sent me to this blog entry which has these lovely launch shots, but the entry gets it wrong as HM notes; these are probably not from the ISS, but from some sort of NASA chase plane. What's alarming and annoying is the usual date stamp which as xoB notes elsewhere on the Cellar, tend to ruin every photo they appear on. It makes it seem like this is some sort of vacation shot, but surely no commercial jet is allowed to get this close to the airspace.



Still, I hadn't seen them before and they are striking. I hadn't seen any launch images from above before - only from the ground, which is striking enough.



busterb  Monday Nov 13 11:00 AM

Nice.



Elspode  Monday Nov 13 11:58 AM

Possibly a chase plane crew member's personal camera? I mean, I can't imagine what scientific use such obviously nontechnical photos would have served, so I'm guessing that someone just took the opportunity to get a quick personal shot or two while they were on board the chase plane.



cooties  Monday Nov 13 01:11 PM

According to Snopes, it's (likely) the NASA/JSC WB-57 High Altitude Research aircraft.

(and so ends my first post)



fargon  Monday Nov 13 01:23 PM

kewl



Saknussem  Monday Nov 13 01:26 PM

Really awesome image.

I saved it, zoomed it WAY in on my PC (good monitor, high res, etc etc) and still could not QUITE make out whether that light thing-a-ma-jiggie at the top of the smoke trail is the SHUTTLE or the flame from its engines. Anyone?



barefoot serpent  Monday Nov 13 01:59 PM

My guess would be the flame from the SRBs since they have not finished burning.

edit: and the shuttle, from that distance, would be less than a pixel.



Undertoad  Monday Nov 13 02:20 PM

Great F.P. coot, thanks for the detail.



Wombat  Monday Nov 13 05:20 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertoad
What's alarming and annoying is the usual date stamp which as xoB notes elsewhere on the Cellar, tend to ruin every photo they appear on.
Yes they are always annoying. Luckily these ones are over very plain areas so they could easily be disappeared with Photoshop or similar.

Great shots all the same!


rkzenrage  Monday Nov 13 06:29 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by cooties
According to Snopes, it's (likely) the NASA/JSC WB-57 High Altitude Research aircraft.

(and so ends my first post)
Welcome!

Does anyone have a link to a larger version?


xoxoxoBruce  Monday Nov 13 07:04 PM

Looks like it's taking off from A Big Blue Marble....uh, you can use that.



SPUCK  Tuesday Nov 14 02:36 AM

Notice the sky has got black in it but is NOT all black. This is not the ISS. Since it is NOT all black.. But it is from a higher than normally achievable altitude, (because of the black), so it is from a high altitude platform.

Neat pictures! Wish I could see the originals.



xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Nov 14 01:36 PM

There's a bunch of satellites taking pictures all the time, could be one of them. Or maybe part of Google's plot for world domination.



Flint  Tuesday Nov 14 01:39 PM

Like this: Google Announces Plan To Destroy All Information It Can't Index?



SPUCK  Tuesday Nov 14 02:59 PM

Here we go:
http://www.nasa.gov/returntoflight/l...chasejets.html



busterb  Tuesday Nov 14 04:17 PM

To me, the last link doesn't explain the dates in photos or the bit of cockpit or shroud in photos. Fwiw. But I don't think they were made from a small plane. Wonder how high? Altitude!



busterb  Tuesday Nov 14 04:21 PM

65,000 ft for the above plane. http://suborbital.nasa.gov/platforms...aft/wb-57.html



xoxoxoBruce  Wednesday Nov 15 06:57 AM

Good find, that's an interesting plane. Good design, but poor material choices led to premature wing cracking and expensive repairs, so only the two given to NASA by the Air Force are still flying.

Quote:
The United States Air Force first got interested in the Canberra, as well as many other aircraft, in 1950 when it was looking for a replacement for the aging Douglas B-26 Invader. The Air Force was to make its final selection for the replacement aircraft after a final demonstration in February of 1951. The B-57 was flown in by the Royal Air Force for the demonstration, making the flight across the Atlantic in four hours and forty minutes, setting an unofficial record time for the crossing in either direction. This was also the first unrefuelled Atlantic crossing by any jet-powered aircraft. Coming into the demonstration flight with such fan-fare, the Canberra easily stole the show, and won the contract.



xoxoxoBruce  Wednesday Nov 15 07:01 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by busterb
To me, the last link doesn't explain the dates in photos or the bit of cockpit or shroud in photos. Fwiw. But I don't think they were made from a small plane. Wonder how high? Altitude!
I agree, buster. Seriously doubt they are from the imaging system but the pilot probably had a personal camera with him.


134340  Wednesday Dec 13 11:50 AM

its really amazin' , never seen a shuttle launch from above, but is that really a shuttle launch? if yes, whats the aeroplane (the guy taking the pics probably is in an aeroplane) doing in space?



Beestie  Wednesday Dec 13 12:20 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by 134340
... whats the aeroplane (the guy taking the pics probably is in an aeroplane) doing in space?
Sometimes, its better not to know...


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